CRD Staff Cars 1931 - 1952

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Up until January 1951 there had been a minimum requirement of three staff cars per day at CRD Charlton Works. The three cars spent the day at CRD doing any neccessary shunting of cars around the works. In particular, as wheel carriers 011 and 012 were only conduit fitted then a staff car would tow them from the change-pit at the gate and shunt them into the stores bay. Once loaded the wheel carriers would be towed and then propelled to the change-pit.

At the end of the day's shift the staff cars would be lined up out in the approach road for the staff to board. One car would proceed into the Woolwich Road (only a single trailing point) to the next crossover, reverse and go westwards to New Cross and on to Clapham depot. Another car would follow but continue eastwards to Abbey Wood depot. The third car would finish up at New Cross depot, but all we currently know is that it got there via Catford and Forest Hill. All cars spent the night at their respective depots where they were serviced before returning the staff back to CRD the following morning.

With the conversion of the Clapham tram services on 6th January, the "Clapham Omnibus" took over that duty. The run down of Charlton Works had by then commenced so that by the end of tram operation the works would only have limited amount of trolleybus overhauls. Thus Charlton virtually became an 'annex' to Hendon (Colindale) trolleybus works. From April, 52 there was only need for one staff car to do the Abbey Wood duty.

At times, staff cars laying-over at CRD were either in the way or went on other duties as became necessary. For instance, 1400 was photographed within Deptford Wharf. When on staff car duties, the destination boxes normally showed SPECIAL.

Staff Cars at Other Locations.

The usual practice at the depots (not operating night services) was to use a passenger car for early morning or late night runs, collecting or returning staff from/to their homes. However, from the LPTB/Cohen correspondence on cars available to scrap, there was mention of allocated staff cars elsewhere. 2412 was the only MET rebuilt Type A with a fully enclosed upper saloon. Because it was non-standard with high power motors (wanted for South London E/1s), it was scheduled for scrap in 35. However, a plea from the staff at Stonebridge Park that they wanted the car for staff runs was countenanced. By August, 35, its BTH 509c motors were replaced by BTH GE 67, whilst B 49 controllers superceded the B 18 ones. 2412 remained there until August, 36, where it was affectionately referred to as the "Silver Queen" because LPTB repainted all metal roofs in silver.

E 631 was shown as Wandsworth's staff car in the Purley scrapping list for 38.

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LCC CRD Staff Cars 31 - 33

CAR
Class
From
To
Scrapped
1458
M
31
34
Hampstead - Oct 34
1460
M
31
34
Hampstead - Oct 34
1716
M
32
34
Hampstead - Nov 34


LPTB / LTE CRD Staff Cars 34 - 52
CAR
Class
From
To
Scrapped
1449 (9)
M
Nov 34
Jul 36
Brixton Hill - Jul 36
1459 (9)
M
Nov 34
Jul 36
Brixton Hill - Jul 36
1690
M
Nov 35
Mar 37
Aurelia Road - Mar 37
1722
M
Nov 35
Mar 37
Aurelia Road - Feb 37
432
E
Mar 37
Jan 38
Purley - Feb 38
511
E
Mar 37
Jan 38
Purley - Jan 38
630
E
Jan 38
Feb 39
Hampstead - Feb38
781
E1
Jan 38
Apr 39
Hampstead - Apr 39
801
E1
Jun 38
Feb 39
Hampstead - Mar 39
806
E1
Jun 38
Feb 39
Hampstead - Feb 39
834
E1
Jun 38
Dec 39
Hampstead - Dec 39
820
E1
Feb 39
Dec 39
Hampstead - Jan 40
821
E1
Feb 39
Dec 39
Hampstead - Mar 40
823
E1
Feb 39
Dec 39
Hampstead - Feb 40
1328
E1
Apr 39
Dec 39
Hampstead - Feb 40
963 (1)
E1
Nov 39
Feb 40
Hampstead - Feb 40
964 (1)
E1
Nov 39
Feb 40
Hampstead - Feb 40
968 (1)
E1
Nov 39
Feb 40
Hampstead - Feb 40
969 (1)
E1
Nov 39
Feb 40
Hampstead - Feb 40
965 (1)
E1
Dec 39
Feb 40
Hampstead - Feb 40
1519 (i) (2)
E1
Dec 39
Apr 43
Hampstead - Dec 46
1519 (ii) (2)
E1
May 42
Apr 43
Hampstead - Dec 46
1394 (11)
E1
Mar 40
Sep 40
Clapham - Sep 40
1412 (4),(13)
E1
Mar 40
Apr 41
Purley - Mar 46
1420
E1
Mar 40
Apr 41
Clapham - May 47
1424
E1
Mar 40
Apr 41
Clapham - Apr 47
1072
E1
Apr 41
Apr 43
Hampstead - Jun 46
1147
E1
Apr 41
Apr 43
Hampstead - Jun 46
1615
E1
Apr 41
Apr 43
Hampstead - Oct 46
1288
E1
May 43
May 47
Clapham - May 47
1293
E1
May 43
May 47
Clapham - May 47
1343
E1
Jul 46
Jul 47
Clapham - Jul 47
326
WH
May 47
Apr 51
Penhall Road - Apr 51
327
WH
May 47
Apr 51
Penhall Road - Jun 51
330
WH
May 47
Apr 51
Penhall Road - Aug 51
1388 (6)
E1
Jan 51
Apr 51
Penhall Road - Aug 51
1392
E1
Apr 51
Oct 51
Penhall Road - Nov 51
1409
E1
Apr 51
May 51
Penhall Road - Jun 52
1614 (5)
E1
Apr 51
Jan 52
Penhall Road - Jan 51
1400 (12)
E1
Apr 51
Sep 51
Penhall Road - Oct 51
1493
E1
Sep 51
Dec 51
Penhall Road - Dec 51
1804
E1
Oct 51
Jan 52
Penhall Road - Feb 52
1798(14)
E1
Dec 51
Jan 52
Penhall Road - Jan 52
2056
K
Jan 52
Apr 52
Penhall Road - Apr 52
2055 (7)
K
Jan 52
Jul 52
Penhall Road - Jul 52

Notes:

(1)Fitted with high power EE 31C motors.

(2) In May 42, 15(I) given windscreens from 1350(I) and placed back in passenger service from New Cross as 1350(II), finally being scrapped at Penhall Road Jan 51. 1350(I) placed on trucks and with electrical equipment from 1305 and renumbered 15(II) without windscreens. Now derelict 1305 was scrapped at CRD Feb 42.

(3) Whilst stabled overnight in Clapham depot on 15.9.40, badly damaged in air raid. Believed scrapped there Jul or Sep 41.

(4) Fitted with windscreens and returned to New Cross for passenger service.

(5) Still licensed when required for passenger service.

(6) Replaced by 1392, after fire in destination box.

(7) The last ex-Walthamstow car to run.

(8) 1458 1460 - Delicensed for passenger service in 32 and only fitted for conduit operation.

(9) Originally only fitted for conduit operation. From LPTB drawing A1696 dated 8.2.35, both cars had upper saloons strengthened for single trolley fitting. Both cars sold Jul 36 to be used in Alfred Hitchcock's film "Saboteurs". Subsequent fate unknown.

(10)1716 Although LPTB authority Q579 to scrap was dated 2.10.34, thought car scrapped by Jun 34.

(11) Whilst stabled overnight in Clapham depot on 15.9.40, badly damaged in air raid. Believed scrapped there Jul or Sep 41.

(12) Withdrawal due to electrical defect.

(13) Went back into passenger service from New Cross after being stored in Purley, Apr 41. Fred Ivey thought car sold from Purley, 46, after besing cut down. John Wills (snr) said no but car scrapped there. Colin Withey's notes show scrapped about Jul 47 at New Cross. Who's right?

(14) Seen at Penhall road yard labelled "shunting car". Could this be for use in CRD or Penhall Road yard?




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